Osama bin Dead

[Fact Checker]

Osama bin Laden is dead. Pakistan's president says he thinks
Osama is most likely dead because the suspected terrorist has
been unable to get treatment for his kidney disease.

[A Bush administration official] said U.S. intelligence is that
bin Laden needs dialysis every three days and "it is fairly
obvious that that could be an issue when you are running from
place to place, and facing the idea of needing to generate
electricity in a mountain hideout."
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/01/18/gen.musharraf.binladen/

Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Bin Laden would need help if on dialysis Renal
dialysis -- talking about hemodialysis -- is something that
really is reserved for patients in end-stage renal failure. That
means their kidneys have just completely shut down.
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/

The most common cause of something like that would be something
like diabetes and hypertension. Once that's happened, if you're
separated from your dialysis machine -- and incidentally,
dialysis machines require electricity, they're going to require
clean water, they're going to require a sterile setting --
infection is a huge risk with that. If you don't have all those
things and a functioning dialysis machine, it's unlikely that
you'd survive beyond several days or a week at the most.

Magazine runs what it calls bin Laden's will The editor-in-chief
of a London-based Arab news magazine said a purported will it
published Saturday was written late last year [2001] by Osama bin
Laden, and shows "he's dying or he's going to die soon."
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/

Bin Laden's voice was detected regularly until [14 December 2001]
by intelligence operatives monitoring radio transmissions in Tora
Bora, according to the Pentagon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/16/wtora16.xml

Since then, nothing has been heard from the al-Qa'eda leader and
President Bush has hinted in private that bin Laden's silence
could mean he has been killed. [Telegraph]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/28/wbin28.xml

Translation of Funeral Article in Egyptian Paper:
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633

News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/

A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced
yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da
organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious
complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death.

Karzai: bin Laden 'probably' dead Osama bin Laden is "probably"
dead, but former Taliban leader Mullah Omar is alive, Afghan
President Hamid Karzai has said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/06/karzai.binladen/

Bin Laden 'probably' dead The US Federal Bureau of
Investigation's counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, says he
thinks Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2135473.stm

Bin Laden could be ill or dead - US A taped message by Osama bin
Laden that aired on Al-Jazeera television suggests the al-Qaeda
leader is ill and could be dead, US analysts told Knight-Ridder
newspapers.
http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/272280.htm

Israeli intelligence: Bin Laden is dead, heir has been chosen
Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin
Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan
in December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden
are probably fabrications, Middle East Newsline reported.
http://216.26.163.62/2002/me_terrorism_10_16.html

Swiss scientists 95% sure that Bin Laden recording was fake
Scientists in Switzerland say they are almost certain that an
audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden is a fake.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,851112,00.html

Osama bin who? Israel does not view bin Laden as a threat.
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr021227_1_n.shtml


"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a
revolutionary act." [George Orwell]

"The enemy of the moment always represent[s] absolute evil."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/2.html

"[...] are alert that evil folks still lurk out there. [...] We
will rid the world of the evil-doers."
[George W. Bush, 16 Sept 2001]

"[...] since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter
whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is
that a state of war should exist."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html

"War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the
stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials
which might otherwise be used to make the masses [...] in the
long run, too intelligent."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html

[cLIeNUX user]

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Zarqawi Bin dead for about a year now too.

Post by Fact Checker
Osama bin Laden is dead. Pakistan's president says he thinks
Osama is most likely dead because the suspected terrorist has
been unable to get treatment for his kidney disease.
[A Bush administration official] said U.S. intelligence is that
bin Laden needs dialysis every three days and "it is fairly
obvious that that could be an issue when you are running from
place to place, and facing the idea of needing to generate
electricity in a mountain hideout."
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/01/18/gen.musharraf.binladen/
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Bin Laden would need help if on dialysis Renal
dialysis -- talking about hemodialysis -- is something that
really is reserved for patients in end-stage renal failure. That
means their kidneys have just completely shut down.
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/
The most common cause of something like that would be something
like diabetes and hypertension. Once that's happened, if you're
separated from your dialysis machine -- and incidentally,
dialysis machines require electricity, they're going to require
clean water, they're going to require a sterile setting --
infection is a huge risk with that. If you don't have all those
things and a functioning dialysis machine, it's unlikely that
you'd survive beyond several days or a week at the most.
Magazine runs what it calls bin Laden's will The editor-in-chief
of a London-based Arab news magazine said a purported will it
published Saturday was written late last year [2001] by Osama bin
Laden, and shows "he's dying or he's going to die soon."
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/
Bin Laden's voice was detected regularly until [14 December 2001]
by intelligence operatives monitoring radio transmissions in Tora
Bora, according to the Pentagon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/16/wtora16.xml
Since then, nothing has been heard from the al-Qa'eda leader and
President Bush has hinted in private that bin Laden's silence
could mean he has been killed. [Telegraph]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/28/wbin28.xml
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced
yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da
organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious
complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death.
Karzai: bin Laden 'probably' dead Osama bin Laden is "probably"
dead, but former Taliban leader Mullah Omar is alive, Afghan
President Hamid Karzai has said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/06/karzai.binladen/
Bin Laden 'probably' dead The US Federal Bureau of
Investigation's counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, says he
thinks Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2135473.stm
Bin Laden could be ill or dead - US A taped message by Osama bin
Laden that aired on Al-Jazeera television suggests the al-Qaeda
leader is ill and could be dead, US analysts told Knight-Ridder
newspapers.
http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/272280.htm
Israeli intelligence: Bin Laden is dead, heir has been chosen
Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin
Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan
in December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden
are probably fabrications, Middle East Newsline reported.
http://216.26.163.62/2002/me_terrorism_10_16.html
Swiss scientists 95% sure that Bin Laden recording was fake
Scientists in Switzerland say they are almost certain that an
audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden is a fake.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,851112,00.html
Osama bin who? Israel does not view bin Laden as a threat.
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr021227_1_n.shtml
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a
revolutionary act." [George Orwell]
"The enemy of the moment always represent[s] absolute evil."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/2.html
"[...] are alert that evil folks still lurk out there. [...] We
will rid the world of the evil-doers."
[George W. Bush, 16 Sept 2001]
"[...] since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter
whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is
that a state of war should exist."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html
"War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the
stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials
which might otherwise be used to make the masses [...] in the
long run, too intelligent."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html
--
Warm Regards,
Raven Cecil

[Fact Checker]

Rick, a top poster? Who would have thought.

Post by cLIeNUX user
Zarqawi Bin dead for about a year now too.

I wouldn't be so certain of that fact, if I were you. They may
decide to trot him out in October. They obviously cannot trot out
UBL, because he has been dead since December 2001. All the signs
are there.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html

The /only/ way UBL could be alive is if the CIA brought him to an
American hospital (again). However, he has been too silent, and
that was never his style.

Post by cLIeNUX user

Post by Fact Checker
Osama bin Laden is dead. Pakistan's president says he thinks
Osama is most likely dead because the suspected terrorist has
been unable to get treatment for his kidney disease.
[A Bush administration official] said U.S. intelligence is that
bin Laden needs dialysis every three days and "it is fairly
obvious that that could be an issue when you are running from
place to place, and facing the idea of needing to generate
electricity in a mountain hideout."
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/01/18/gen.musharraf.binladen/
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Bin Laden would need help if on dialysis Renal
dialysis -- talking about hemodialysis -- is something that
really is reserved for patients in end-stage renal failure. That
means their kidneys have just completely shut down.
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/
The most common cause of something like that would be something
like diabetes and hypertension. Once that's happened, if you're
separated from your dialysis machine -- and incidentally,
dialysis machines require electricity, they're going to require
clean water, they're going to require a sterile setting --
infection is a huge risk with that. If you don't have all those
things and a functioning dialysis machine, it's unlikely that
you'd survive beyond several days or a week at the most.
Magazine runs what it calls bin Laden's will The editor-in-chief
of a London-based Arab news magazine said a purported will it
published Saturday was written late last year [2001] by Osama bin
Laden, and shows "he's dying or he's going to die soon."
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/
Bin Laden's voice was detected regularly until [14 December 2001]
by intelligence operatives monitoring radio transmissions in Tora
Bora, according to the Pentagon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/16/wtora16.xml
Since then, nothing has been heard from the al-Qa'eda leader and
President Bush has hinted in private that bin Laden's silence
could mean he has been killed. [Telegraph]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/28/wbin28.xml
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced
yesterday the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da
organization, stating that binLaden suffered serious
complications in the lungs and died a natural and quiet death.
Karzai: bin Laden 'probably' dead Osama bin Laden is "probably"
dead, but former Taliban leader Mullah Omar is alive, Afghan
President Hamid Karzai has said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/06/karzai.binladen/
Bin Laden 'probably' dead The US Federal Bureau of
Investigation's counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, says he
thinks Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2135473.stm
Bin Laden could be ill or dead - US A taped message by Osama bin
Laden that aired on Al-Jazeera television suggests the al-Qaeda
leader is ill and could be dead, US analysts told Knight-Ridder
newspapers.
http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/272280.htm
Israeli intelligence: Bin Laden is dead, heir has been chosen
Israeli sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin
Laden probably died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan
in December. They said the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden
are probably fabrications, Middle East Newsline reported.
http://216.26.163.62/2002/me_terrorism_10_16.html
Swiss scientists 95% sure that Bin Laden recording was fake
Scientists in Switzerland say they are almost certain that an
audio tape attributed to Osama bin Laden is a fake.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,851112,00.html
Osama bin who? Israel does not view bin Laden as a threat.
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr021227_1_n.shtml
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a
revolutionary act." [George Orwell]
"The enemy of the moment always represent[s] absolute evil."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/2.html
"[...] are alert that evil folks still lurk out there. [...] We
will rid the world of the evil-doers."
[George W. Bush, 16 Sept 2001]
"[...] since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter
whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is
that a state of war should exist."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html
"War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the
stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials
which might otherwise be used to make the masses [...] in the
long run, too intelligent."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html

--
Cold Calculator,

Raven Cecil

"[...] since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter
whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is
that a state of war should exist."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html

"War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the
stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials
which might otherwise be used to make the masses [...] in the
long run, too intelligent."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html

"The enemy of the moment always represent[s] absolute evil."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/2.html

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a
revolutionary act." [George Orwell]

Vote Smart, Vote S-Mart!
http://www.lp.org/
http://www.badnarik.org/
http://www.self-gov.org/

[cLIeNUX user]

Post by Fact Checker
Rick, a top poster? Who would have thought.

Post by cLIeNUX user
Zarqawi Bin dead for about a year now too.

I wouldn't be so certain of that fact, if I were you. They may
decide to trot him out in October. They obviously cannot trot out
UBL, because he has been dead since December 2001. All the signs
are there.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html
The /only/ way UBL could be alive is if the CIA brought him to an
American hospital (again). However, he has been too silent, and
that was never his style.

The US military said they thought they got Zarqawi about a year ago.
Zarqawi is supposed to have a distinctive tatoo the Berg beheader clearly
lacked, and of course the Berg beheader hid his face which makes no sense
if you're the USA's top boogieman.

The one wrinkle in the OBL timeline is AUDIO tapes the CIA said they
thought were him. Probably a son. Julian Lennon sounds just like dad, as
does Bob Marley's kid. The son theory is courtesy of yours truly.
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independant candidate for President
ftp://linux01.gwdg.de/pub/cLIeNUX/interim/platform2

[*.*]

Sure makes sense that Bush has 'em on ice until just before the election
then it's "Weekend at Bernie's"

I always love a good conspiracy theory...

Post by cLIeNUX user

Post by Fact Checker
Rick, a top poster? Who would have thought.

Post by cLIeNUX user
Zarqawi Bin dead for about a year now too.

I wouldn't be so certain of that fact, if I were you. They may
decide to trot him out in October. They obviously cannot trot out
UBL, because he has been dead since December 2001. All the signs
are there.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html
The /only/ way UBL could be alive is if the CIA brought him to an
American hospital (again). However, he has been too silent, and
that was never his style.

The US military said they thought they got Zarqawi about a year ago.
Zarqawi is supposed to have a distinctive tatoo the Berg beheader clearly
lacked, and of course the Berg beheader hid his face which makes no sense
if you're the USA's top boogieman.
The one wrinkle in the OBL timeline is AUDIO tapes the CIA said they
thought were him. Probably a son. Julian Lennon sounds just like dad, as
does Bob Marley's kid. The son theory is courtesy of yours truly.
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independant candidate for President
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Post by cLIeNUX user
The US military said they thought they got Zarqawi about a year ago.
Zarqawi is supposed to have a distinctive tatoo the Berg beheader clearly
lacked, and of course the Berg beheader hid his face which makes no sense
if you're the USA's top boogieman.

The US military is obviously full of crap if they said anything of the kind.
The beheadings continue and most have all the earmarks of the same guy
taking responsibility.

Post by cLIeNUX user
The one wrinkle in the OBL timeline is AUDIO tapes the CIA said they
thought were him. Probably a son. Julian Lennon sounds just like dad, as
does Bob Marley's kid. The son theory is courtesy of yours truly.

A voiceprint is as distinctive as a fingerprint. There is no mistaking a
relative. Bin Laden is probably still alive and residing somewhere along
the Afghan-Pakistani border region. I see no major obstacle to generating
his own electricity, nor even to acquiring a reasonably sterile environment
for treatments somewhere in his subterranean refuge. The contention that he
died long ago has been brought forth on several occasions and refuted every
time.

[cLIeNUX user]

Post by Jim Wilson

Post by cLIeNUX user
The US military said they thought they got Zarqawi about a year ago.
Zarqawi is supposed to have a distinctive tatoo the Berg beheader clearly
lacked, and of course the Berg beheader hid his face which makes no sense
if you're the USA's top boogieman.

The US military is obviously full of crap if they said anything of the kind.
The beheadings continue and most have all the earmarks of the same guy
taking responsibility.

Probably a CACI (Israeli) "translator".

Post by Jim Wilson

Post by cLIeNUX user
The one wrinkle in the OBL timeline is AUDIO tapes the CIA said they
thought were him. Probably a son. Julian Lennon sounds just like dad, as
does Bob Marley's kid. The son theory is courtesy of yours truly.

A voiceprint is as distinctive as a fingerprint.

Nonsense. Voiceprints change over the life of the speaker, for starters.
And with illness, et cetera.
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independant candidate for President
ftp://linux01.gwdg.de/pub/cLIeNUX/interim/platform2

[Fact Checker]

Post by Jim Wilson

Post by cLIeNUX user
The US military said they thought they got Zarqawi about a year ago.
Zarqawi is supposed to have a distinctive tatoo the Berg beheader clearly
lacked, and of course the Berg beheader hid his face which makes no sense
if you're the USA's top boogieman.

The US military is obviously full of crap if they said anything of the kind.
The beheadings continue and most have all the earmarks of the same guy
taking responsibility.

The Berg video was filmed in Abu Ghraib. If one is staged then
they are all staged.

1. An American soldier pops into the frame, twice.
2. The orange jumpsuit.
3. The white chair.
4. No blood when his neck was cut.

http://www.thememoryhole.org/war/berg_killing.wmv
http://www.aztlan.net/berg_abu_ghraib_video.htm

Post by Jim Wilson

Post by cLIeNUX user
The one wrinkle in the OBL timeline is AUDIO tapes the CIA said they
thought were him. Probably a son. Julian Lennon sounds just like dad, as
does Bob Marley's kid. The son theory is courtesy of yours truly.

A voiceprint is as distinctive as a fingerprint. There is no mistaking a
relative. Bin Laden is probably still alive and residing somewhere along
the Afghan-Pakistani border region. I see no major obstacle to generating
his own electricity, nor even to acquiring a reasonably sterile environment
for treatments somewhere in his subterranean refuge. The contention that he
died long ago has been brought forth on several occasions and refuted every
time.

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This is a man about to die from kidney disease, and it was taken
in 2001. He is dead.

I know you have this dream of him being trotted out before the
election, but it is simply a dream.
--
Cold Calculator,

Raven Cecil

"[...] since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter
whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is
that a state of war should exist."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html

"War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the
stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials
which might otherwise be used to make the masses [...] in the
long run, too intelligent."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html

"The enemy of the moment always represent[s] absolute evil."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/2.html

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a
revolutionary act." [George Orwell]

Vote Smart, Vote S-Mart!
http://www.lp.org/
http://www.badnarik.org/
http://www.self-gov.org/

[Fact Checker]

Post by cLIeNUX user

Post by Fact Checker
Rick, a top poster? Who would have thought.

Post by cLIeNUX user
Zarqawi Bin dead for about a year now too.

I wouldn't be so certain of that fact, if I were you. They may
decide to trot him out in October. They obviously cannot trot out
UBL, because he has been dead since December 2001. All the signs
are there.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/osama_dead.html
The /only/ way UBL could be alive is if the CIA brought him to an
American hospital (again). However, he has been too silent, and
that was never his style.

The US military said they thought they got Zarqawi about a year ago.
Zarqawi is supposed to have a distinctive tatoo the Berg beheader clearly
lacked, and of course the Berg beheader hid his face which makes no sense
if you're the USA's top boogieman.
The one wrinkle in the OBL timeline is AUDIO tapes the CIA said they
thought were him. Probably a son. Julian Lennon sounds just like dad, as
does Bob Marley's kid. The son theory is courtesy of yours truly.

A top Swiss university discredited the tapes. They stated they
were not UBL with 95% certainty. Prof Bourlard, a voice
recognition expert, is the author or joint author of 150 research
papers and two books, and has worked extensively with the
International Computer Science Institute at Berkeley, California.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,851112,00.html


Then there is this article:
http://www.rense.com/general12/ld.htm
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Cold Calculator,

Raven Cecil

"[...] since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter
whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is
that a state of war should exist."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html

"War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the
stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials
which might otherwise be used to make the masses [...] in the
long run, too intelligent."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html

"The enemy of the moment always represent[s] absolute evil."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/2.html

"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a
revolutionary act." [George Orwell]

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Terrorism is on the rise and flourishing thanks to Bush et al and the
American gas guzzler. Wave that flag, make it a crime to deface it but
don't sacrifice for your country by conserving oil and gas. Claim your
patriotism the cheap and easy way! Vote Bush!

Osama bin Laden is dead. Pakistan's president says he thinks Osama is most
likely dead because the suspected terrorist has been unable to get
treatment for his kidney disease.
[A Bush administration official] said U.S. intelligence is that bin Laden
needs dialysis every three days and "it is fairly obvious that that could
be an issue when you are running from place to place, and facing the idea
of needing to generate electricity in a mountain hideout."
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/south/01/18/gen.musharraf.binladen/
Dr. Sanjay Gupta: Bin Laden would need help if on dialysis Renal
dialysis -- talking about hemodialysis -- is something that really is
reserved for patients in end-stage renal failure. That means their kidneys
have just completely shut down.
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/
The most common cause of something like that would be something like
diabetes and hypertension. Once that's happened, if you're separated from
your dialysis machine -- and incidentally, dialysis machines require
electricity, they're going to require clean water, they're going to
require a sterile setting --
infection is a huge risk with that. If you don't have all those things and
a functioning dialysis machine, it's unlikely that you'd survive beyond
several days or a week at the most.
Magazine runs what it calls bin Laden's will The editor-in-chief of a
London-based Arab news magazine said a purported will it published
Saturday was written late last year [2001] by Osama bin Laden, and shows
"he's dying or he's going to die soon."
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/21/gupta.otsc/
Bin Laden's voice was detected regularly until [14 December 2001] by
intelligence operatives monitoring radio transmissions in Tora Bora,
according to the Pentagon.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/16/wtora16.xml
Since then, nothing has been heard from the al-Qa'eda leader and President
Bush has hinted in private that bin Laden's silence could mean he has been
killed. [Telegraph]
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2001/12/28/wbin28.xml
al-Wafd, Wednesday, December 26, 2001 Vol 15 No 4633
News of Bin Laden's Death and Funeral 10 days ago
http://www.welfarestate.com/binladen/funeral/
A prominent official in the Afghan Taleban movement announced yesterday
the death of Osama bin Laden, the chief of al-Qa'da organization, stating
that binLaden suffered serious complications in the lungs and died a
natural and quiet death.
Karzai: bin Laden 'probably' dead Osama bin Laden is "probably" dead, but
former Taliban leader Mullah Omar is alive, Afghan President Hamid Karzai
has said.
http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/06/karzai.binladen/
Bin Laden 'probably' dead The US Federal Bureau of Investigation's
counter-terrorism chief, Dale Watson, says he thinks Osama bin Laden is
"probably" dead.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2135473.stm
Bin Laden could be ill or dead - US A taped message by Osama bin Laden
that aired on Al-Jazeera television suggests the al-Qaeda leader is ill
and could be dead, US analysts told Knight-Ridder newspapers.
http://iafrica.com/news/worldnews/272280.htm
Israeli intelligence: Bin Laden is dead, heir has been chosen Israeli
sources said Israel and the United States assess that Bin Laden probably
died in the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan in December. They said
the emergence of new messages by Bin Laden are probably fabrications,
Middle East Newsline reported.
http://216.26.163.62/2002/me_terrorism_10_16.html
Swiss scientists 95% sure that Bin Laden recording was fake Scientists in
Switzerland say they are almost certain that an audio tape attributed to
Osama bin Laden is a fake.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/alqaida/story/0,12469,851112,00.html
Osama bin who? Israel does not view bin Laden as a threat.
http://www.janes.com/security/international_security/news/fr/fr021227_1_n.shtml
"Speaking the Truth in times of universal deceit is a
revolutionary act." [George Orwell]
"The enemy of the moment always represent[s] absolute evil."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/2.html
"[...] are alert that evil folks still lurk out there. [...] We
will rid the world of the evil-doers."
[George W. Bush, 16 Sept 2001]
"[...] since no decisive victory is possible, it does not matter
whether the war is going well or badly. All that is needed is
that a state of war should exist."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html
"War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the
stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials
which might otherwise be used to make the masses [...] in the
long run, too intelligent."
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/16.html
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Warm Regards,
Raven Cecil